He was quartering toward me, head on the ground, when I leveled the Remington 7600’s crosshairs on the inside armpit and tickled the trigger. I had a buddy’s rifle in hand, as my own was having some issues, and I knew exactly how accurate the gun was. The .280 Remington is essentially the .30/06 necked down to 7mm with some slight dimensional differences, the most important of these that the shoulder is moved slightly forward so the .280 will not chamber in the .270. Five minutes later, I stood over the largest deer I’d ever seen in real-life; though he wasn’t any record book deer, I was proud as hell of that eight-pointer, and for our region of Upstate New York, he was worth the numb fingers and toes. Of course there were many reasons for our selection of the .308” bore, too many to go into in this short column, but when we talk about simple ballistics and basic physics the .284” diameter projectile has a lot going for it. saw the ’06 case launching 7mm bullets—made famous on the back of the stellar reputation of the 7x57 Mauser—providing plenty of energy for almost all the common species, in a package that had a wee bit less recoil than its father does. I sat for as long as I could, shivering in the November wind, watching the few squirrels that were brave enough to look for their stash in that weather. Our preferred hunting weights of 7mm bullets, from 140 to 175 grains, tend to be long for caliber and offer superb penetration. Compare that to a 175-grain 7mm bullet fired at 2,850 fps from the.280 AI, which generates less than 26 ft-lbs. We've got you covered. The 130 passes through, but so does the 150 when hitting vitals. saw the ’06 case launching 7mm bullets—made famous on the back of the stellar reputation of the 7x57 Mauser—providing plenty of energy for almost all the common species, in a package that had a wee bit less recoil than its father does. 280 AI shoots 50 fps to 100 fps faster than the 280 Remington with the same bullets in the same standard-length actions. My current favorite loads are with 140 gr Barnes TSXs and 160 gr Nosler Partitions. The .284” bullet diameter, with like bullet weights, has higher sectional density figures than the .277” bullet diameter. I piled on the layers—a menagerie of wool and flannel of the highest order I could afford—and made the uphill trek as slow as I could to avoid sweating and the resulting chills. 700. But if given the choice between the two, make mine a .280. All of this accomplished with roughly four fifths the pressure of like-weight loads in the .270. If you’re in the market for a rifle that will cover the bases and cover them well, you could do an awful lot worse than a .280 Rem. and 30-06. I truly can’t understand why the .280 never achieved the popularity of the .30-’06 or the .270 Win. If your cup of tea is the .270 then by all means, take it to the limit. Mag.—but that resulted in an epic failure. The .280 Rem. Mentored through late summer and early fall by friend, writer, and .280 AI aficionado Chub Eastman (who has, last I heard, 18 one-shot kills to the credit of his .280 AI), I developed a fantastic handload for the Nesika. 28 Nosler Brass.280 Remington Brass.280 Ackley Improved Brass 7mm Rem Mag Brass 7mm Rem … As a youth of 23 years, there was no keeping me from the woods; the rut was on after all. 280 Remington Load Data; 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data; 280 Ackley Improved Load Data; 7mm Winchester Short Magnum Load Data; ... 7mm Bullets . Build your gun on a 700 in any configuration you like. I have personally zero experience with a 280 except the 280 imp. Reloaders with.280 rifles can take advantage of many different bullet weights and powders. • .300 Winchester Magnum• .270 Winchester• .222 Remington• .45 ACP• .404 Jeffery• .44 Remington Magnum• .243 Winchester• .338 Winchester Magnum• .357 S&W Magnum• 6.5-284 Norma• 8x57 Mauser• .38 Smith & Wesson Special• 7x57mm Mauser• 9 mm Luger• .35 Whelen• .454 Casull• .375 H&H Magnum• .45 Colt• .22-250 Remington• 10mm Auto• .308 Winchester, E-mail your comments/questions about this site to: EmediaHunter@nrahq.org, For questions/comments about American Hunter magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org, You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Hunter, visit nramediakit.com for more information. Dan What I have found is that for such a small difference in bullet diameter there is a whale of a difference in ballistic performance and performance on big game; the truth is the .280 is a better round any way you slice it. A 140gr 7mm-08 with a partition would literally perform well on elk size game. The most popular bullets in the .270 are the 130- and 150-grain slugs (this from Hornady on sales of bullets) and even though a couple of other weights are available for it, the .280 can be loaded successfully with 100, 110, 115, 120, 130, 139, 140, 145, 150, 154, 160, 165, 168 and 175 weight slugs. I’ve always said that if you have confidence in a chambering and can shoot it well in your chosen rifle then there is no argument that is what you should shoot. than the .30-’06 Sprg. My favorite load for the .280 serves double duty on unruly groundhogs and coyotes and usually gets the call for our whitetails, Speer’s 115-grain hollow point and 58 grains of Hodgdon 4350 in Remington cases and set off with Remington’s large rifle primer. It is thus almost a cult cartridge, supported by a relatively If you shoot .280 Rem., you are already in the know. I can work up to about 2950fps with 140s and maybe 2750 with 160s with either powder. I have had the best results with Reloder 22 and IMR 4831. It provides a level of accuracy and terminal performance that any hunter would be happy to employ, though I suspect the announcement of the lineup of Winchester’s Magnums may have outshined the .280’s release. This is not a “through the shoulder” load; it is so accurate in my .280 I have no problem slipping it between the ribs on a deer or, if the opportunity arises, between the eyes on those big, fat meaty does. I’ve had very good luck with Reloder 25 and IMR 7828 as well. Coupled with this was the introduction of the 7mm Remington Magnum by the parent company in 1962 and the attempt in 1979 to rename the cartridge the “7mm Remington Express”, which thoroughly befuddled the American shooter. Muzzle velocities are the nominal industry standard for the tested bullet weight in each caliber for factory loaded ammunition to ensure standardization. Clearly the 140 grain bullet has become the most popular weight for the.280. The 1 in 12 inch twist is ideal for best accuracy with varmint weight bullets (70-85 grains) in a high velocity .24 (6mm) caliber rifle. The temperature on the thermometer on the side of the house read a whopping 16˚F, but I headed to the deer stand in spite of it. Friday, August 25, 2017. For the one-rifle hunter the .280 makes an excellent choice because of this latitude in bullet selection. ... Why did you leave out the .280 Remington cartridge? Answer: It wasn't my desire, believe me. Reloading: Working With the .280 Remington, Gun Digest Reloading Video Series Episode 01: Basics of Reloading, Gun Digest Reloading Video Series Episode 8: Troubleshooting, Gun Digest Reloading Series Episode 11: Bonus Tips, Ammo Brief: Going The Extra Mile With The .50 BMG. I have ended up with 4831SC being my only powder for all bullet weights from 120 to 168. Custom 280 Remington Handloads Really Reach Potential Because 140- and 150-grain bullets are a common weight for deer hunting in a variety of calibers, that would seem a good size for comparison testing against a 270 Win. The 117 to 120 grain bullets hand loaded to 3000fps tend to produce hydrostatic shock out to ranges of between 190 and 230 yards. Highly accurate cup-and-core, polymer-tipped and Partition bullets cover most bases, and new bonded bullets and several lead-free projectiles add to the.280's versatility. I shoot 142's out of my LR260 but it's never fired a round of factory ammo. You could go lighter and stay with the bonded type bullets or stay at 140gr. The shots are most all the time under 100 yards but may go to 150 at times, I appreciate your feedback on this issue. The .280 Remington is capable of generating slightly higher velocities in heavier bullet weights (150 grains and above) than the .270 Winchester due to a marginally greater case capacity. A century ago, bullets were just getting used to high speed. Falling smack-dab in the middle of the useful caliber choices, the 7mm v. .30 War rages on, even if it has simmered down to a passive-aggressive movement. SAAMI specifications give the.280 a relatively short free bore, ideal for the full range of bullet weights from 120 to 180 grains. There are plenty of good choices out there. 1993’s Thanksgiving dinner was already being prepared, but, it was deer season. I've used Remington Core-Lokt 130 and 150 grain bullets in my Savage Model 111 in .270 over the past few years. Gilding metal (90 percent copper, 10 percent zinc) was first thought too soft for the friction generated by 150-grain bullets in .30-06 service ammunition. I know this is an old thread, but I would say it is more of a bullet length issue than a weight one. 03-06-2017, 10:22 AM #2. I’ve loaded 175-grain Swift A-Frame for hunters headed for the Dark Continent, and they returned more than pleased. is to the .300 Win. Taking the huge bears of the extreme north and the bison off the menu, there is very little that the .280 Rem. .30-06. anything with a bullet weight around 140gr. Dear Old Dad had a half-century head start, and its half brother—the .270 Win.—had been on the scene for over 30 years, so there was no warm welcome. As standard cartridges go the .280 Remington has one of the oddest histories. This is a Hart barreled hunting rifle and my accuracy requirements are 3 shot sub 1 in. At the more rarely achieved 3400fps, fast killing is pushed out between 270 and 280 yards, very similar to the 7mm Remington Magnum and .270, albeit with lighter projectiles. A noise that didn’t seem to align with the squirrel symphony aroused my attention, and upon turning my head to investigate, the immediate glint of sun on antlers held all my attention. In addition, there is one load with a 150 grain pointed Core-Lokt bullet at 2,890 fps. For this discussion I’d like to quote the best discussion of this ballistic characteristic I have read, from Wikipedia, the Internet information site. Remington’s 1957 release of the .280 Rem. It wasn’t long—1981 to be specific—that the .280 moniker was restored, and all was right in the universe. .243 Winchester barrels, on the other hand, were rifled 1:10" to stabilize bullets as heavy as 105 grains. I personally prefer in a short light weight rifle a short cartridge. However the ballistic coefficient of equal weight bullets favors .270 caliber bullets over 7mm (.284) bullets … Remington’s 1957 release of the .280 Rem. ; I mean it surely delivers the goods in the field, and it represents—at least to the mind of a reloader who looks at things statistically—a wonderfully efficient cartridge. I have just acquired an older Ruger#1 in 280(1970's) but have not shot it yet. Mating the .30-’06 case to each and every sensible bullet diameter—from .25 to .35—was, and is, a smart thing, as the case represents a perfect blend of acceptable recoil, powder capacity, and useable trajectory and striking power. and go with a thinner jacket and softer core bullet. Mag., doesn’t need a .280, but if you are looking for a cartridge with accuracy, reach, power, and manners, there are few better choices than the .280 Remington. The 150 grain (also due to weight) seems to hit with more energy. However, the last place that a reasonable compairison can be made is the 175gr. I know very few people who take full advantage of the bullet weights on their side of the caliber debate, and in my experiences, the two are close enough to be a moot point in the game fields. The .280 had a hard start, being introduced so long after the .270 hit the shelves, and it did not have a mouthpiece like Jack O’Connor trumpeting its virtues in the outdoor magazines. Now that all this has died down what serious shooters have found is a wonderful, powerful chambering that truly is an “all-around” big-game cartridge. The cartridge was one I’d never used before: a .280 Rem. In its initial form it was somewhat underloaded (it was originally introduced in a semi-auto rifle) but today it is a stout, ballistically sound chambering suitable for nearly any big game. The Winchester, Hornady & Remington Brands have good reputations in 150gr & 165gr. I have been a .280 fan for 30 yrs. I have not experienced any bullet failures with pointed, lead core jacketed "blue collar" bullets. For varmints the 100-grain Sierra hollow point can be driven to 3400 fps at very mild pressure with #760 making for a very flat shooting long-range rig. Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing. What bullet weight would be best used for target shooting 100-500yds? The 7mm Remington Magnum, unlike the 7x57, 7mm-08, the .280, and even the 7x61 Sharpe & Hart, has enough case capacity to drive even heavy 175-grain bullet at meaningful velocity. There are dozens of 7mm bullets to choose from and many great powders to make this cartridge fun for hand loaders. is immediately subject to scrutiny and comparison, and if you happen to be the 7mm variant, you are subject to the Caliber Cold War. Get the American Hunter Insider newsletter for at-a-glance access to industry news, gear, gun reviews, videos and more—delivered directly to your Inbox. In the late 1970s, Remington decided it would be a wise idea to rename the cartridge the 7mm Express Remington—presumably banking on the successes of the 7mm Rem. Bullets in the 140 to 160-grain range work best with the.280 Remington. I love the .280, it is perhaps the best 7mm cartridge in existence. It is a real shame that we Americans were so late in coming to the .284” bullet diameter. My 7mm Weatherby with the 1/10 twist will shoot real good with the 175 Hornady, but most certainly does not do good with the 168 LRX, or most other 168 gr or heaver long range bullets. on a Remington(26" barrel) that I have also had for years. I load .280 for a Browning A-Bolt and a Rem. Privacy Policy   •   Contact Us   •   Warnings   •   FAQs   •  © 2020 National Rifle Association of America, Remington Model 700 American Hunter Rifle Project, Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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The greater the sectional density is for a projectile the greater its efficiency is and therefore its ability to overcome the resistance of air and object. Magnum primers work well with these propellants. But for those who wish to utilize bullets weighing between 150 and 180 grains, the SAAMI specification can be a handicap. ), some good and some downright hateful; well, for those of you out there who are die-hard .270 fans, this effort might not be a column you want to read. Based on the .30-06 case necked down to take a 7mm, or .284-inch bullet, the cartridge was introduced in 1957. Checking out a Remington 700 26" heavy barrel chambered in 223. A 280 AI can safely fire 280 Remington ammunition, simultaneously fire-forming brass cases to reloadable 280 … It can use the entire spectrum of bullet weights available to the 7mm Mauser—from 120-grain pills all the way up to the long 175-grain slugs—giving nearly the same flexibility that the .30 caliber cartridges have. The twist rate of the barrel determines the best bullet weight for your gun and is the single, most important factor for rifle accuracy. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Mag., the blend of caliber to case capacity is rather evident. If the rate of twist will support it, I'd work with Sierra Gameking 160's (Budget-all purpose), Hornady 162 SST's (also inexpensive) or 168 Berger hunting VLD's if you hunt extended ranges. can’t do, especially with the modern developments in bullet technology that have completely changed the game. 0.408 COAL: 3.250" Barrel Length: 24" Case: Winchester Twist Rate: 1:10" Charge Velocity Charge Velocity Load Powder (grains) (fps) (grains) … Get the latest news and reviews from Gundigest.com. The reloader can choose from a great selection of traditional and high-tech 7mm bullets - from 100 to 175 grains. Any descendant of the .30-’06 Sprg. The 130 (due to weight) seems to pass through faster (obviously) and mushrooms a lot less. This article appeared in the September 28, 2009 issue of Gun Digest the Magazine. Where it beats the .270 is in bullet weight availability and in sectional density of like bullet weights. Mag. I would recommend a bullet that expands a little quicker for deer. would’ve and should’ve been an immediate success, but that wasn’t exactly the situation. I received a good bit of mail on my column dealing with the .270 Winchester (keep it coming, I love it! 280 Remington chambers can be easily converted to 280 AI. bullet in the .280 (otherwise knowen as the 7mm Remington Express) and the 180gr. After the Great War, cupro-nickel, of 60 percent copper and 40 percent nickel, became the jacket of choice. Walt Hampton is a retired wildlife biologist and gunsmith and has been writing for outdoor publications since 1990. No need to use premium bullets until you get into elk medicine. In the 150gr. Nosler’s E-Tip bullet consists of a solid copper, lead-free construction that offers hunters maximum penetration and 95 percent or better weight retention. Learn how your comment data is processed. However, driving a 140-grain bullet to a muzzle velocity of 2,950 fps—as in Federal’s Trophy Bonded Tip load—makes for an excellent deer load, and the 160-grain bullet, at 2,775 fps, as the Nosler Custom Partition load does, is excellent elk and moose medicine. When a projectile is in flight or impacting an object, it is the sectional density of that projectile which will determine how efficiently it can overcome the resistance to air or object. The old 165 grain RN bullet at 2,820 fps is also still available. It has never had enough sales to support an extensive variety of factory loads, yet those who use it generally swear by it. Your Rifle will say just what Brand & bullet weight it likes best. Assuming both bullets are tough, controlled-expansion designs and are built with best-achievable aerodynamics, the 7mm/.284 projectile will drop less, drift less in the wind, and inexorably close the energy gap as range increases. Some of the winners were slow to catch on and some of the losers were slow to die; regardless of false starts, name changes and so forth, Remington had a winner with the .280. The most popular bullets in the.270 are the 130- and 150-grain slugs (this from Hornady on sales of bullets) and even though a couple of other weights are available for it, the.280 can be loaded successfully with 100, 110, 115, 120, 130, 139, 140, 145, 150, 154, 160, 165, 168 and 175 weight slugs. A properly scoped sporter in .280 is at home anywhere big game is found. 0.266 Bullet Style: TSX BT Primer: Fed GM210M B.C. Several factory rifles are available in the chambering and it is a very popular caliber in custom rifles. The 280 Remington is a fine shooter with almost all bullet weights. The .280 Remington deserves more respect. It’s a great cartridge saddled with an unfortunate legacy. But Western Cartridge Company’s Lubaloy jacket, comprising 90 percent copper, 8 percent zinc and 2 percent t… What is the best choice 260 Remington bullet for Deer size game I have a Model 7 Rem 260 cal for my girls next years deer hunt and want to see what you like as bullet choice. Considering the fact that the .280 Rem. There are those who will debate the merits of each, fervent in their beliefs, but the bottom line is pretty much this: both do their job, and do their job well. Wooden Bench style laminate stock. To be completely honest, I'm not uncomfortable saying that the .280 represents a better bore-diameter to case-capacity ratio than the .30-’06 does. Send your questions to him at: There has been an error with your Email Subscription. is much closer in performance to the 7mm Rem. 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